Hmm, fair enough. I appreciate the polite answer, as I know the reasons, don't worry. Azzy Wars refused for similiar reasons. As for serious suggestions: - Forsaken, but lead by Nathanos Blightcaller. Potentially you could tie then Sylvanas of OJ to her getting removed for another ranger hero (Halduron/Vereesa/whateveryoucomeupwith), should she actually die and then Red gets Sylvanas unlocked, if he researches her at the Undercity. So, kinda would work like a reward. - Dreadlord Insurgents - I assume that these are potentially Blue's Second Chance, but given that I have barely an overview what were all the second chances factions again, I only suggest them in case they weren't added yet. Their second chance could actually even range to the Risen as their own independent faction. But guess you already worked this stuff into the game - would be surprised if you didn't! ^^ - Scourge Remnants - if you can't reinvent the wheel, then change it! As we know from Cataclysm the Lichking had still various minions alive, who nontheless continiued his agenda in the Plaguelands, among them being Aurius Rivendare, the son of good old Rivendare and Grandmaster Gandling. In Azeroth Cataclysm they actually made out of these two individuals (+ the Lich in Kalimdor) an entire Scourge faction, which was to be fair hard, but nontheless fun to play. It can still contain Nerubian units, so why not go for these guys? Apart from Nathanos btw my most recommended idea, as this one is lore-compatible, you can spawn these guys also anywhere you want them to be, they would have events and etc. - Wretched - well, just blue tinted BElves with some creepy unit models among their ranks and some Mana-addicting abilities. Of course this kinda looks copy-pasted from LTA, but why actually not. If Murky is a faction hero for a second chance, why can't Felendren and his fellows get their rightful chance to... subjugate Kalimdor and Northrend along with the Eastern Kingdoms? Whatever! Where to set the spawn I wouldn't know tbh, but I guess that you can be creative on these - as long as OJ can't snipe them instantly away, it's worth a shot. - Kul'Tiras and the sea nations - yup, you heard me right. OJ has already a lot of stuff, so why not lend from him a faction, which becomes important in TFT anyways. Lorewise, Dalaran got no aid from Kul'Tiras at all when Arthas stood at their gates and Daelin Proudmoore is kinda weird as a melee hero for caster-based faction. So why not make Kul'Tiras a second chance, while giving them also Duke Falrevere? Pirates and actual sailors - a nice faction to have + they would already get a nice starting base, if we actually go far enough to say, that we steal OJ some content. Gameplay-wise it can still get fixed with elfish stuff so... worth an idea? -Drakkari Frosttrolls - yeah, these guys with Malakk and co. Barely have ideas for them, but it's Trolls. Trolls barely recieve love. Hmm... not sure if that's a good approach. Also had Stromgarde in mind, but that one seems more unlikely. In the end your decision if you like one of my more serious ideas.